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Paul Copcutt

Jen - Wow what an amazing, mind opening and authentic post - sent shivers down my spine. I know you have already come out of this and will continue to feel better and better - know that there are many more of us there with you (even when you are throwing something ! :)) that care for you. - Do take care and shout if you need anything.

Terry Matlen

Jen,
You constantly amaze me with your bravery, your willingness to open up- even to complete strangers on the internet- and your profound wisdom.

I feel badly that you went through such an awful time but applaud you for looking at this square in the face and sharing the horrific details with us.

By doing that, you've not only shown us that it's ok to be honest and open, but you also are telling people what they might expect under the same circumstances.

I'm glad you're getting back to your old self. You are one tough cookie!

Hugs,
Terry

Doug E

I echo what Terry and Paul have said. I find sometimes I can forget that real people with real lives are on the other side of blogs and counters and phones. Your situation reminds me to think about the fact that sometimes, it's all one can do just to face the day.

As you start writing about this, I would be interested in reading about how you think ADD factored into your rehabbing.

Keep your eyes on the prize...

Doug E

Jennifer Koretsky

Thanks so much to Paul, Terry, and Doug E for your kinds words and support. I appreciate that very much!

Reta Russell Hougton

Thank you for sharing your experience with this drug. I think we often place too much trust in our doctors and do not get the full story about long term use of meds. I hope you are feeling better. I know it was a very dark week for you.

Liz Field

Thank you for sharing your experiences with us - that takes a lot of courage. I especially want to thank you for mentioning about the anger you were feeling, because I have been going through that myself, and for whatever reason, never connected it to ADHD. I mean, everything was making me angry, and I'd react with just an over the top outburst or long simmer of silence and disgust. Something just kind of snapped one day, and I decided I wasn't going to live my life in a constant state of anger. I have long owned the book Being Peace, which I think you have mentioned before. So I dusted it off and read it, and also bought a couple of other books by Thich Nhat Hanh about mindfulness. These have been a big help. I have also just started taking SAMe, or S-Adenodyl Methionine. This is an amino acid supplement that can't be found in foods. It is enjoying much success in both humans and animals as an antidepressant that also helps with cognative function. Just started taking it so it's too new to rate right now, but I'll see how it goes. Best of luck to you.

Eric

Ick. Hang in there, I know it isn't easy.

I find that humor always helps, and this comic seems to capture the essence of ADHD:

http://buttersafe.com/2007/08/23/watermelon/

I laugh every time. peace!

david kassir

WOW!!! very intense....I read about these withdrawls & thought it was relative to only sensitive people but then again I imagine this must be common given that your body has been digesting these meds all these years. Would love to hear how its going in the future.....

CT

Jen,

I know I've been quiet for a while, but have been reading the blog. All I can say is... Thank God you and those around you came through it unharmed. (I mean, I hope Punky isn't still hiding from you or something...)

My stints on SSRI's were only short term. But talk about bad getting off. Don't feel the least bit apologetic or weak or stupid or anything. You really took on one hell of a challenge and saw it through. You (and Erin) Rock!

CT

p.s. it ain't actually totally over yet, but you probably know that. The brain rebels and rages and then calms down first. The rest of your body will have its own say, less loudly and less quickly and in less straightforward ways. But it too will come to heel (or is that heal?)Keep on Keepin' on. No Regrets!

Karen

I don't know much about BLOGS- but I received your e-mail and clicked on the link to the blog. Guess it's time for me to learn more about blogs. I am very interested in hearing the reasons behind your decision to "get off of" Lexapro.

THANKS AGAIN for sharing.

Ariane Benefit, Organizing Coach

Jen, what an ordeal! I so admire and respect you for sharing your experience so openly. I've been taking Wellbutrin for many years to help with PMS and last year I tried to go off...it was like a living hell. I went back on it...I just couldn't deal with the withdrawal and my doctor did NOT tell me that it would end. Didn't even metion it. I'm going through menopause right now which was why I thought maybe it was time to stop feeling like I was "dependent" on meds. I guess I just wanted to know, like you, if all my efforts to manage my stress etc. had paid off. My doctor insists that meds are the best way to hand bio-chemical issues. Now I wonder if I should get another doctor.

You are such a generous and giving human being. Thanks so much for being you!

Lynn

Thanks for sharing. I have been on anti-depressant meds for ... a long long time and I too am interested in hearing why you wanted to get off of them. I am also interested in getting off of them - but after reading your blog - i am extremely hesistant now.

Eric Dickhaus

Jen, I just finished your book, which arrived pretty quickly to me here in Italy, and I think it was terrific! You post about the SSRI withdrawl was both courageous and necessary, because as you mentioned many people with AD/HD are taking similar medications. I am curious to follow you in the next few months and see how things progress for you and what decisions you make about how to handle your anxiety. Many people are skittish about taking antidepressants, and hope one day to quit, even if they do a great deal of good. I think this is because we grew up thinking that our minds were seperate from our bodies, and shouldn't need chemical help. But on the other hand, once drugs have had their effect, they may no longer be required, and it is difficult to know when or if this is the case. Sharing your decision, and the results you observed, will help many people understand their own similar decisions better. People like you make a difference every day, I just hope this works out as you hoped!

Amy

Jennifer,

Thanks so much for sharing your experience! I really admire you for persisting through such an awful experience. It pisses me off that drug companies try to say this isn't withdrawal or drug dependency.

I have tried a couple of times to get off effexor because of the side effects, but stopped each time after becoming really irritable. My family was already arguing a lot then and irritability just made things worse. It helps to know that I could perhaps get off it if I dedicated the time, prepped myself with meditation, and isolated myself. Maybe in a cabin in Wisconsin? However, I've read in forums how some people continue to feel bad even after months off the SSRI. Did that possibility concern you, too?

caryn

I went from 20 -> 10 mg. slowly. The worst part was feeling as though there were electricity surges in my brain; I have since gone back to 20 mg. w/ an additional 5 mg. for "pms" week that has turned into "perimenopause pms" 12 day carnival ride.

Stefan

Hi Jen
After 13 years on Dex, I just gave them up. Ok I was kinda helped - I had lost the prescription for the repeats and it was such a palaba getting an appointment every six months or so with the psychiatrist on the other side of Sydney. Unable to get the time for another appointment (and a bit embarrassed at losing the script) I just thought, hey I managed without these before 1995, there must be a way to do it again. It wasn't an easy ride, but I am glad I took the step. My son had been on Ritalin and in recent years Concerta since he was diagnosed with ADHD at 5 years old (he is now 18), he had decided to do without them about a year ago once he left high school and he hasnt looked back. It would be good to find a forum where those concerned about their long term use of SSRIs or those who have weaned themselves off them can share their experiences. Thanks for sharing your story Jen, I really enjoyed your book.

LEANNE

Jen;
Thanks for your true feelings. I have add and have been on paxil for 11 years. I am scared to come off of it and it is like metors like you that help us all even think of one day being drug free....
Thank you for your great help and suggestions with the emails you send me...it is these that have helped me not only admit I have add, but know that I can perhaps manage, and live a semi norma life now with great tools and moral support from people like you and your great followers.

Michael Hadley

Jennifer,

It sounds like your withdrawal from Lexapro sucked big time.

I was on Lexapro about a year then switched over to Paxil. Lexapro seems to prevent me from feeling anything - no highs, no lows, no libido. Paxil had worked for me before except for another sexual side effect. Sometimes you just put up with the side effects.

It's hard to find the right combination of drugs. Best wishes going forward.

Michael

drew

Some people really have a sucky time weaning SSRIs; others just stop with no problems. I had the electrical-zoomie thing every time I moved my head for weeks coming "off of" Effexor (the most common SSRI/SNRI to have the side effects you described with Lexapro).

Just a thought: Bipolar Spectrum Disorder often looks an awful lot like ADD+anxiety+depression+weird uncontrollable mood changes (all of which are often WORSENED by starting or stopping SSRIs in people with Bipolar Stuff). The co-morbidity of ADD with BPSD is at least as high as ADD and anxiety, which is near-universal. I actually think ADD/anxiety/bipolar spectrum/depression/fibromyalgia/sleep weirdness are all manifestations of a common syndrome as of yet named. Limbic system ("primative" drives/emotions) not playing nice with the frontal lobes (our "editor"), and other chemical traffic cops along the way busy eating donuts?

Enough, but with such a severe and significant reaction to stopping an SSRI, might be a good "shrink" topic...

Tom Romano

My experience with Lexapro was the same as yours, except my withdrawal symptoms lasted much longer. They were severe for 3 weeks, and slowly went away over 6 more weeks. It has only been within the past 3 weeks that I'm feeling normal again. I was on Lexapro since it first came out until the end of November, 2008, which is about 5 or more years. I have done much in the past to work with the effects that ADD has on me. Lexapro withdrawal took over my life, and now I feel as if I'm back at square 1 dealing with ADD. I realize that this does not happen to everyone, but everyone needs to be warned about the possibility of this horrible nightmare occurring.

AG

Jen,

Thanks for your wonderful post.I understand more than you will ever know exactly what you went through because I am going through it myself right now!! To say that it is horrible does not even begin to describe the experience, and I don't know if there are words to even do so. I will say though, consider yourself lucky. I was put on 40mg of Lexapro my freshman year of college and had know idea the shear terror that it would cause in my life 5 years later. I have been tapering for more than 1 year and still suffer from debilitating withdrawals. The worst part is that although you said in your post, doctors=the best resource, I find that this has not been the case. The best answer they can give me is presciption pad and a bottle full of pillls. I have spent countless hours online reading stories of people just like you and I that have had their lives literally stolen from them as a result of prescription drug addiction. I am not anti-drug, but I am anti-deception!!

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